#2730, enig på alle punkter. Og det ser som sagt også ud til, at den første Blu-ray ser bedre ud. Hørt noget om lydkvaliteten på den nye skive? Jesus... også bare Arnolds skjorte... det er jo én stor, rød plamage. Det ser ud, som om han har brugt en time på at stryge den, før han er trådt ind foran kameraet.
#2731 Ja, den første blu-ray ser så absolut acceptabel ifht. den nye.
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English: (Update) “Predator” was shot flat on 35 mm film. It is well known that due to the used film stocks and the shooting conditions the picture of “Predator” was always a bit rough, raw and grainy. The DVD verions offered a quite grainy but also somewhat dirty picture. Only little DNR was applied on the DVD versions. The first Blu-ray edition offered (except for the higher resolution) a similar picture quality as the DVD. But the quality was not really convincing and everybody hoped for a real restoration. But in retrospect the picture of the “old” BD was not that bad. This new “Ultimate Hunter Edition” was announced (on US sites) as beeing “digitally remastered”. The German press release reads like “For the first time the cult movie will be available uncut and rated FSK 16. Additionally Fox splashes out a new HD master and a lot of unseen special features”. But after putting the disc in and clicking on “Play” we are confronted with a soft and blurry version of the 80’s FOX logo. It is quite unlikely that this BD originates from a new HD master drawn from the original camera negatives. Fox confirmed that a new master was created, but they did not tell me if the master created from the camera negative. The credits were treated in a similar way: no grain and a bit of edge enhancement to make the letters stand out. In the smoky scene were Carl Weathers meet Arnold Schwarzenegger, Weathers looks like he has been filmed through a fog filter or a fine net stretched across the lens. Thus, his face has neither pores nor wrinkles and it looks like a waxwork from Madame Tussauds, like a lot of faces in “The Longest Day” or “Patton”. The degrain/denoise filter was not optimised for movement and creates hazy/soft edges. In the jungle scenes where the camera pans are much slower, the filter works better and the edges are cleaner and sharper. So (from a distance) the picture offers even a sense of 3-dimensional depth. However, the picture looks a bit “digital” and/or artificial, with sharp edges and low detail inbetween these edges. This effects is not like those of “The Untouchables” or “The Italian Job” - the picture quality of those BDs was still somehow bearable. The picture is sometimes a bit too dark, sometimes the black levels are a bit weak and look greyish. Due to the use of contrast and brightness boosting the brightnes in the “mud”-scenes is way too high, so Schwarzenegger can easily be seen although he is completely covered with mud. For the so called “film grain haters” this new version may be a welcome improvement - however, this picture quality has nothing to do with a filmlike reproduction of the source material. Maybe Fox can persuade John McTiernan and Don McAlpine to supervise a new transfer (from the OCN) so Fox can sell a new “25th Anniversary Edition” in 2012.
Formentlig når jeg er død og lagt i graven, er der så få tilbage på kloden, som kan huske, hvordan film ser ud, så der er jeg ligeglad med Martel Barbie versioner af diverse film.
Lydsporet er 4500K DTS HD MA, så det er en super bitrate, men lydsporet er iht. anmeldelsen:
English (outline): - all in all quite dull, subdued high range - English dialogues are also quite dull - German track offers just tubby and unprecise bass - German track offers just an average spatiality - German track is only lossy + English 5.1 track offers a good dynamic range and a nice sound field considering the age of the film
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Har lige tjekket Where Eagles Dare i blu-ray på Pio 50" plasma. Det var ikke en lykkelig genforening. Der er absolut forbedringer ifht. DVD'en, men det er ikke noget som er i "stor stil". En ny remaster og restaurering ville være fantastisk, men det her er en skuffelse. Tjekker i morgen på projektor.
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#2738 Er på vej. Desværre er Spartacus fucked og min yndlings WW2 film Where Eagles Dare desværre heller ikke i optimal stand. Måske skulle man spille i det spanske julelotteri, El Gordo (den fede) og håbe på en 3.5 mia. stor gevinst og gå ind i at udøve velgørenhed mht. at restaurere de mest trængende film.
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Synes jeg lyder som en god idé ! :) Både Where Eagles Dare og Spartacus har jeg ellers selv glædet mig til at få mulighed for at se på BD.. Men det kan være man skal se tiden lidt an.. Måske der kommer noget bedre i fremtiden..
Jeg har intet problem med ikke at have ret. Det er kun, hvis nogen påpeger det, jeg bliver stædig!
#2731 The Insider 15 år siden
#2732 filmz-Bruce 15 år siden
Det ligner de gamle amerikanske polyester bowlingtrøjer vi plejede at spille i, i 70'erne ;)
Den tyske anmeldelse af billedet:
English:
(Update) “Predator” was shot flat on 35 mm film. It is well known that due to the used film stocks and the shooting conditions the picture of “Predator” was always a bit rough, raw and grainy. The DVD verions offered a quite grainy but also somewhat dirty picture. Only little DNR was applied on the DVD versions. The first Blu-ray edition offered (except for the higher resolution) a similar picture quality as the DVD. But the quality was not really convincing and everybody hoped for a real restoration. But in retrospect the picture of the “old” BD was not that bad. This new “Ultimate Hunter Edition” was announced (on US sites) as beeing “digitally remastered”. The German press release reads like “For the first time the cult movie will be available uncut and rated FSK 16. Additionally Fox splashes out a new HD master and a lot of unseen special features”. But after putting the disc in and clicking on “Play” we are confronted with a soft and blurry version of the 80’s FOX logo. It is quite unlikely that this BD originates from a new HD master drawn from the original camera negatives. Fox confirmed that a new master was created, but they did not tell me if the master created from the camera negative. The credits were treated in a similar way: no grain and a bit of edge enhancement to make the letters stand out. In the smoky scene were Carl Weathers meet Arnold Schwarzenegger, Weathers looks like he has been filmed through a fog filter or a fine net stretched across the lens. Thus, his face has neither pores nor wrinkles and it looks like a waxwork from Madame Tussauds, like a lot of faces in “The Longest Day” or “Patton”. The degrain/denoise filter was not optimised for movement and creates hazy/soft edges. In the jungle scenes where the camera pans are much slower, the filter works better and the edges are cleaner and sharper. So (from a distance) the picture offers even a sense of 3-dimensional depth. However, the picture looks a bit “digital” and/or artificial, with sharp edges and low detail inbetween these edges. This effects is not like those of “The Untouchables” or “The Italian Job” - the picture quality of those BDs was still somehow bearable. The picture is sometimes a bit too dark, sometimes the black levels are a bit weak and look greyish. Due to the use of contrast and brightness boosting the brightnes in the “mud”-scenes is way too high, so Schwarzenegger can easily be seen although he is completely covered with mud. For the so called “film grain haters” this new version may be a welcome improvement - however, this picture quality has nothing to do with a filmlike reproduction of the source material. Maybe Fox can persuade John McTiernan and Don McAlpine to supervise a new transfer (from the OCN) so Fox can sell a new “25th Anniversary Edition” in 2012.
Formentlig når jeg er død og lagt i graven, er der så få tilbage på kloden, som kan huske, hvordan film ser ud, så der er jeg ligeglad med Martel Barbie versioner af diverse film.
Lydsporet er 4500K DTS HD MA, så det er en super bitrate, men lydsporet er iht. anmeldelsen:
English (outline):
- all in all quite dull, subdued high range
- English dialogues are also quite dull
- German track offers just tubby and unprecise bass
- German track offers just an average spatiality
- German track is only lossy
+ English 5.1 track offers a good dynamic range and a nice sound field considering the age of the film
#2733 filmz-Bruce 15 år siden
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#2734 El vez 15 år siden
#2735 The Insider 15 år siden
#2736 HonoDelLoce 15 år siden
#2737 filmz-Bruce 15 år siden
#2738 HonoDelLoce 15 år siden
Nu mangler jeg bare der snart kommer noget nyt om et nyt release af Gladiator - denne gang uden DNR ! Det ville være i skabet !
#2739 filmz-Bruce 15 år siden
#2740 HonoDelLoce 15 år siden
Synes jeg lyder som en god idé ! :) Både Where Eagles Dare og Spartacus har jeg ellers selv glædet mig til at få mulighed for at se på BD.. Men det kan være man skal se tiden lidt an.. Måske der kommer noget bedre i fremtiden..